
I'm going to refer to it as "The Genius Failure Paradox". "The Genius Failure Paradox" is the tendency for unusually intelligent men to have very low levels of success with women and dating.
Well, other smart guys. Obviously should I become available the line of women waiting to date me will be so long it can be seen from space.
Yup. Spy satellite technology is amazing.
Not to mention that alien technologies are real good for seeing small things.
I think you made a typo there. I think you meant to say "will be so short it can be seen from anywhere."
This is junk science at its worst - babes have always loved me - where is satire tag, crap, total crap
My intelligence certainly hasn't earned me any brownie points with the ladies. Most of them roll their eyes when they hear of my immense intellect.
Maybe I need to be even more arrogant about it. That could help.
Dude, chicks dig it when you're all up on how great you are. You need to be like: "Check this baby. After I scored a 2400 on the new SAT, totally demolished this guy arguing that everything reduces to inductance, disarmed a nuclear bomb with ten seconds to spare, all the while racing F1, I bought a Benz with my immense amount of cash. Do you want to bake me a freaking cake then go swimming in my cash-filled pool? Thought so."
They've done studies. That line (lines?) works 60% of the time, every time.
I like how you worked my whole bio into this example. Kyle rules!
I'm assuming that comment has nearly 20 votes because everyone agrees I should be more arrogant.
OK.
That was a given, Noah.
How arrogant can you truly be if you require the approval of twenty other people before you become more arrogant?
I'll have you know that I am in a constant state of Ego-Increase. I was born that way.
for women its a no brainer (pun intended lol)
Ha! That has to be one of the better infomercials I've seen online!
Women love intelligent men - you just have to prove to them how dumb you are first! Once that little bit of triviality is out of the way, admit they're right and move on! Conversely, women are attracted to very handsome men, who then have to prove that they have no idea how good-looking they are. Again once that is demonstrated conclusively, and that you are totally unworthy to be seen with a woman, you admit they're right and move on. Simple, yes?
*HUGE GRIN*
This must explain why I'm single.:)
Oh and my modesty.
And my Newsvine addiction.
::sigh:: I'm not sure which is more annoying, the generalizations about intelligent men or the assumption all women are too stupid to appreciate an intelligent man. Even setting aside the statistics that show that intelligent men are more inventive in bed, I know from experience that the whole process is much less satisfying if there isn't some good intellectual banter involved.
Take 'em or leave 'em, here's Seven Steps to dating happiness if you're a smart guy:
Step 1. Find a smart girl
Step 2. Let her know how smart you are through asking her questions and let her know she's beautiful
Step 3. Ask her to read one of her favorite book passages with you; don't offer yours unless she asks
Step 4. Don't lose focus on your own hobbies/interests; include her where you're comfortable
Step 5. Read She Comes First
Step 6. Don't be afraid to use your vocabulary to get right to the dirty talk
Step 7. Rinse. Repeat.
(for best results, see how long you can keep this up with the same girl)
Actually, a bunch of these reason apply to stupid people as well. All it takes is for the guy in question to think he's smart (which is distressingly more common than actual intelligence).
I ran this article by Lil' Missy and she responded by patting my hand and saying slowly, "you've nothing to worry about."
I can't escape David DeAngelo!
I've read his "book", which is interesting. But he forgets the most important piece of advice: become a scientist.
While I am no genius, I scored in the top 90th percentile on the SATs, so I would like to at least think I can classify myself as "smart." With that said, I have to say, while most of this article is pretty bogus, I did agree with one point:
Reason #4: They Psych Themselves Out
Smart guys do something that fascinates the hell out of me They come up with all the reasons why everything wont work when it comes to women and dating. They actually figure out why what it is that they would like to do will probably fail
This is pretty much the bane of my dating life. If I can't see how it will "work out," I don't even get started. I have had some great relationships in my life, but usually they are from people I knew really well before we dated. I have never really done a lot on the "dating scene," mainly because of the above reason.
First point, the SAT doesn't make you smart; In fact, I'd say it's a terrible test of one's intellect. I scored a 1220 (on the new one! just kidding) and still got into a fine school and generally consider myself a decently intelligent guy sans SAT blather.
But, and I don't smell any internet sarcasm from you so I'll be serious, you really can't have that mindset about dating. Thankfully, it's easy to fix (but sounds wholly stupid). You need to go talk to 30 random girls in 30 days. Seriously. I had all kinds of woman-related anxiety until I randomly started chatting around school and whammo-presto, I'm a regular... I dunno, regular dude who can go on as many dates as he sees fit with nearly whomever he chooses? :) I love college.
Anyways hope that helps.
First point, the SAT doesn't make you smart;
I was just using the measured that was being used above.
You need to go talk to 30 random girls in 30 days. Seriously.
Your response is a little simplistic. 1.) I have no problem talking to new girls. I do it all the time. I don't have confidence issues, I have "long-term committment issues" coupled with (as the article implies) an ability to end a relationship before it begins because I can see exactly where it will fail.
2.) Ok, so lets assume your solution "solves" the problem at hand - and I go on 30 dates in 30 days. This doesn't solve any of the real problem because I'll still sooner or later, be my own worse enemy, figure out why the relationship won't work out and then leave it.
I think our two issues are much different in reality. Glad to hear things are working out for you though (and that wasn't sarcastic either).
I was just using the measured that was being used above.
And yes I recognize the irony in me messing up a sentence grammatically, while defending how "smart" I am. I never said I was good at English ;-) Actually I am an idiot in English.
You need to go talk to 30 random girls in 30 days.
Actually, if you read the writings of those in the 'pickup community' (yes, there really is such a thing; get a copy of The Game if you don't believe me...it's actually quite an entertaining read), one of the secrets is to do literally hundreds of approaches, which both inures you to rejection while at the same time upping your odds dramatically.
Back in my day, we just called it The Shotgun Approach.
There are anglers and there are drift-netters. You can go to a glacial stream and cast a handwrought fly into to cold fresh waters or you can get on the trawler and bring up everything that swims.
What if you think it's easier to just go to Mcdonald's and get a filet-o-fish?
What are you doing to my metaphor?
Cheapening it horribly, dragging it into a morass of Dickensian lower-middle class bleakness from which it can only recover through the winning of Powerball or liberal applications of Schlitz.
It's what I do.
SB,
Even worse, Synthesis will find a way to link it to Sikh death cults and alien Nazis hiding in Antarctica waiting to use your metaphor to establish the Fourth Reich.
Don't forget Skull and Bones, man....they're always involved somewhere along the line.
one of the secrets is to do literally hundreds of approaches, which both inures you to rejection while at the same time upping your odds dramatically.
I wonder all the time why guys don't just approach women more often. I seriously feel like my generation especially has completely lost touch with the art of the introduction...
I believe there was a time (like, say pre-1965) when the rituals were all codified, and everyone understood what was what.
Then -- in their infinite wisdom -- a bunch of self-indulgent boomers decided they were so freakin' special that the rules should not apply to them, and they threw conventions out the window. Ever since, there has been chaos, as no one really knows what they should be doing, when, with regard to relations between the sexes.
That's it, I am joining the Elks. Or the Masons. Somebody. I will be the youngest guy there but someone has to keep tradition alive.
I have considered The Oddfellows, but something always seemed off about them.
Your smart mind gives you a particular type of advantage that can be very, very powerful in life: you're usually right. Smart people get used to being "right" because they usually are right. And when you're right more often than others, you can get ahead in many situations.
If your smart, you have no trouble with women, if your always right then you chose the right woman.
The seeded article had to be wrote by a lefty as any righty would know better
The problem is about how stupid educated men when looking always find the wrong woman.
In fact most educated women look for the geniuses as they are the ones that earn the dollar's.
Once again as soon as I saw the headline I knew it was a Cash seeding...
Great stuff Cash
Or, like me, you can just have a really big #(*&!! Women don't care how smart or stupid you are as long as you're packin' heat!!
What do you mean?
Of course that pretty/attractive women are the first thing that men look at. Later on is when the real tests come. A dumb will bore the relationship unless men are control freaks.
Phaedrus, the 'Vine automatically replaced the word in your post with random symbols, and I can't understand what you were saying.
Was it "a really big tongue?"
That's what she said!
I accept that intelligent men are classified as nerd until.....they find the woman of his life.....that's my case.
I am married to a gentleman, Historian, soft spoken, smart and diplomatic to handle crisis with and a lot of common sense, he is also a lot of fun. Never had a TTT and the more upset that he is at me, the more softer his voice that I can't even hear.
We (the feminine gender) fall sometimes for a "pretty" face or muscles instead of looking deeper and find a twin soul. Opposite poles are attracted. However, there are grounds in intellectual conversations, tastes, subjects and even politics.
After all, love is the must and most important ingredient.
I'm initially partial to a pretty face, but if he is dumb for even a second I'm immediately disinterested. I can only be with guys that can carry on an intellectual conversation...
Although, if they have any of the qualities outlined in this story that can be a deal-breaker unless they are carried in moderation. Also, these qualities by no means are only inherent in smart guys...there are plenty of dumb guys that possess them as well!
Not a bad article idea, just not articulated very well.
For you "smart guys" confused by the female personality paradox, read "The Art of Seduction", then work on being honest, not blatant, but respectful with your delivery.
BTW- Charm can be learned.
But Cash, since I am not so smart why am I not swimming the breaststroke in a sea of women? Why am I only successful with one at a time?
The "one" you are currently with is actively sabotaging your other efforts. They are very possessive creatures.
I need time to figure that statement out...anything to get me in trouble written there?
Does this mean the longer I hang out on newsvine, the less likely am I to succeed? To "succeed" meaning, of course, ... you know.
Don't worry. With all the typing you'll be doing, you're hand will be even stronger and more conditioned.
Um...yeah.
Many women (and likely men) care more about what other women (or men) think than they do about intelligence, charm, looks and even a few rare cases wealth. A well executed favorable rumor about your great desirability circulating such that it gets to many women will go much further than all other silly exercises. But only smart people need try this strategy as a rumor that is traced back to you is much worse than having never tried this in the first place.
I suppose being young and good-looking wouldn't hurt. In truth, old age (60) and creeping senility render this whole thread useless for my application, however it's been most amusing to read.
I feel 21, and act 13, but the bags and wrinkles say otherwise. Oh, speaking of which.... since I don't wear a beard in the summer, I did a self-portrait yesterday and replaced my old avatar with the new, sleeker (LOL) James Jones.
And I get better mileage without the beard, so I can copy and paste this comment over to the global warming thread.........
Nowadays is more difficult for men to be successful because the bottom line is that they just want to have a good time, and bye honey, I will see you around.
They are very possessive creatures
Of couse that we are possessive creatures, there are plenty of flies ready to jump and take away the guy that belongs to us.
Watch for female friends. Mine are a lot older and I read the Riot Act to my hubby.
And keep the flame going on.
A truly smart guy could could up with more than 10 reasons.
Maybe I am the exception to the rule, but I love smart guys. Find them extremely attractive and sexy,intelligence is a turn on to me. By the way I am quite hot (not to sound vain).
No, not vain at all. One thing I have discovered is that every anonymous woman on the internet is hot.
Thanks to those women that were not fond of my hubby for being a very serious student, I am married to one. I need to admire the person that I share my life.
Smart guys are the only ones I like. But the really smart ones can't usually get it together enough to start a relationship.
Actually, I prefer smart-asses. You have to be smart to be a smart-ass.
Actually, I prefer smart-asses. You have to be smart to be a smart-ass.
:)
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